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Floyd Bennett Field, Brooklyn, Nov. 17, 2003

Interview by CATHERINE SAINT LOUIS

Published: November 30, 2003

Police Officer Glenn Hoffman (in helicopter): ''I work for N.Y.P.D.'s Aviation Unit. We have two Bell 412EP helicopters that we use for medevacs or air-sea rescues, but this brand-new one we use for counterterrorism and surveillance. It's very impressive what they can put in a machine. That camera out front is the same as a news camera. We can broadcast images back to Police Headquarters. Or we can just look at something on the ground. We could be at 2,000 feet, and you can see people running and read license plates. We've also got a thermal imager: it picks up heat signals. It can't see through things, but you can see people in the dark as clear as day. If you stripped all the toys off the outside and inside, this 412 and the other two we've got are the same. So for pilots like me, there's no difference in flying this one, but the mission is different. On a rescue mission, we have to make an on-the-scene decision. When we fight crime and terrorism, we do investigations and surveillance. In both cases, you're saving lives. But if you take away a terrorist's chance to kill, it's not as immediate as saving someone in imminent danger.''

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